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LORRAINE (de ) Ricuin - 9 978 500
- Comte de VERDUN

Naissance : estimée 890
Décès : 15 novembre 923
Assassiné par Boson, frère du Roi Raoul (ou Rodolphe) de FRANCE, sur la suggestion de Adalberon, evêque de METZ fils de Cunégonde et de Wigéric

Union 1 : . Inconnue ( (e) 890 - ? )
Mariage : estimée 920

Enfant : VERDUN (de ) Othon ( (e) 920 - ~ 944 )

Union 2 : . Cunégonde ( ~ 893 - > 923 )
Mariage : vers 922

Note individuelle :
Ricuin/Richwin (Ricuinus, Riquinus, Ricuvinus, Richizo)

Count of Verdun, before 895-923.
Count of Toul, 912.
Lay-abbot of Saint-Pierre de Metz, 917.
Lay-abbot of Moyenmoutier.

Ricuin appears on 14 August 895 in a charter of king Zwentibold Lorraine in favor of the nuns of Saint-Mihiel ["in pago Virdunensi in comitatu Ricuvini" Vanderkindere (1902), 2: 367, n. 3; "... in pago Uirdunensi in comitatu Rihuuini, ..." MGH DD Zw 21 (#3)]. On 23 January 899, he was mentioned along with Wigeric (Widiacus) as a count of king Zwentibold [Wampach #134 (p. 147); "..., quia Richquinus et Widiacus venerandi comites nostri ..." MGH DZw 66 (#27)]. On 12 February 912, Riquinis comes appeared with archbishop Dreux of Toul and his archdeacon Ingelram in an act of king Charles the Simple [Depoin (1908-10), 15: 176, n. 414; RHF 9: 516; see the Commentary section below for Depoin's conjecture that Ingelram was a son of Ricuin]. He was with Charles at the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Metz on 11 June 913, where he obtained confirmation of an act of 16 November 904 [Depoin (1908-10), 15: 176; RHF 9: 525]. In 914, Ricuin appears again as count in Verdun ["Actum in Virduno, in mallo publico, coram Ricoino comite, anno ab Incarnatione DCCCCXIIII ... anno III regnante domno Karolo rege in regno Lotarii quondam regis feliciter." Depoin (1908-10), 15: 177, n. 417; similarly with variations (e.g., "anno V regnante") in Evrard (1981), 175 and Wichmann (1891), 108-9, who quote from the Bénédictine Histoire de Metz, iii, pr., 55]. On 9 January 916, he appears in a list of the king's nobles at at Heristal, as does his son Otto and Widricus comes palatii [Parisot (1898), 616; Barth (1990), 185-7; Wampach 160-1 (#146)]. This is Wigeric's last known appearance in the records, and it was probably not long after this that Wigeric died and Ricuin married Wigeric's widow Cunégonde as his second wife (see below). On 1 February 917 or 918, Ricuin consented to a charter of the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Metz, where he appeared as lay-abbot ["In nomine Donii Riquinus misericordia Dei comes et abba monasterii Sancti Petri ... sub die Kalendarum Februarii, anno VI regnante domno Carolo rege glorioso ... Signum Riquini comitis qui hanc precarium firmavit ... Ego Adalgaudus cancellarius atque notarius, jubente seniore nostro Riquino, scripsi." Depoin (1908-10), 15: 177-8, n. 419 (giving date 917); Evrard (1981), 154 (giving date 918)]. Chatelain argues against the lay abbacy of Saint-Pierre de Metz being interpreted as "count of Metz" [Chatelain (1898-1901), 101, n. 4 (both cite Histoire de Metz, iii, 56)]. In 921, he is mentioned as a rebel against king Charles the Simple ["Karolus rex in regnum Lotharii abiit, receptisque per vim quibusdam Ricuini infidelis sui praesidiis, et facta pactione usque ad missam sancti Martini cum Heinrico principe Transrhenenesi, reversus est in montem Lauduni." Flodoard, Annales, s.a. 921, 5-6]. He was killed in his bed in 923 by Boso, son of Richard of Burgundy ["Boso filius Richardi Ricuinum in lecto languentem occidit." Flodoard, Annales, 12-3], evidently at the instigation of his stepson Adalbero, later bishop of Metz ["" Vita Ioh. Gorz., c. 105, 134 (see below under Ricuin's second marriage)]. He was also lay abbot of Moyenmoutier, successor of a certain count Hillinus and being succeeded in that office by his son Otto ["Huic successit Riqwinus secundus, tercius Otto, ...", Chronicon Mediani Monasterii, MGH SS 4: 89 (describing the succession after Hillin); the chronology is uncertain]. It is also probable that Otto succeeded Ricuin as count of Verdun (see below under Otto). Although he is evidently not documented elsewhere with the title of duke, he is probably the Riquinus dux whose obituary appears in the Liber Memorialis of Remiremont (see below).

Date of Birth: Unknown.
Place of Birth: Unknown.

Date of Death: Killed 15 November 923, while weak in bed.
Place of Death: Unknown.
The year is given by Flodoard (see above). The Liber Memorialis of Remiremont gives 15 November for the date of death of a "duke" Riquinus, in an entry written by a scribe dated to approximately 915×940 ["XVII [kal. Dec.] Riquinus dux obiit" Lib. Mem. Remiremont 76, 34v15]. The main difficulty with this entry is that Ricuin is not otherwise documented with the title of duke. There is a Riquinus comes in the necrology of Saint-Vanne de Verdun under 14 March, but this necrology has many entries from a later time [Nec. S. Vanne 137]. While not making a definite decision, Parisot, called the 14 March date more probable, because it was from a Verdun necrology and because it appears among the earlier of the entires in Flodoard's year 923. However, it is difficult to definitively chose between these two dates based on the placement in Flodoard's annals, for Flodoard does not always enter events in precise chronological order. Indeed, as Parisot acknowledges, Ricuin's son Otto changed his loyalty from Boso's brother Raoul to king Heinrich late in 923, the timing of which would be more easily explained by the November date [Parisot (1898), 663]. A count Ricuin, son of a count Louis and father of another count Louis (who he suggested was the same as Louis de Mousson, husband of Sophie de Bar), appears in a charter of bishop Berthold of Toul in 1019 [Parisot (1907-8), 57: 342-3]. A Ludouicus comes appears in the necrology of Saint-Vanne under 17 January. Bloch suggested that the counts Ricuin and Louis in the Saint-Vanne necrology, as well as the Teodericus comes at 15 March, were members of the Mousson-Bar dynasty [Nek. S. Vanne, 137-8]. Not only does the entry at 15 March have a reasonable alternate candidate, but there is good reason to believe that none of the obituaries at Saint-Vanne were as early as Ricuin, for the earliest identified by Bloch in his footnotes was the "Adelmarus, abbas huius loci" who has an entry at 28 December, and died ca. 966×9 [Nek. S. Vanne, 149]. On the other hand, if the 915×940 entry in the book is contemporary, it is very difficult to see who a Riquinus dux dated to 915×940 might be other than Ricuin of Verdun. Lacking another candidate (other than a nonexistent duke Ricuin mentioned below in the Commentary section), it is reasonable to conclude that this is a reference to Ricuin of Verdun.

Father: Unknown.
See the Commentary section.

Mother: Unknown.


(1) NN, daughter of count Ingelram and Friderada.
As shown by an entry in the chronicle of Regino of Prüm, Ricuin married a daughter (name not given), daughter of Ingelram and Friderada. Ricuin later had this wife beheaded for adultery ["Hoc etiam tempore idem Hugo Wicbertum comitem, qui ab ineunte aetate sibi faverat, interfecit; paucis dehinc interpositis diebus, Bernarium, nobilem virum sibique fidelissimum, dolo trucidari iussit, pulchitrudine illius captus uxoris, quam absque momento sibi in matrimonium iungit. Vocabatur autem mulier Friderada, quae antequam Bernario sociaretur, copulata fuerat Engilrammo potenti viro, ex quo filiam peperit, quam postmodum Richwinus comes in coniugum accepit, quam etiam propter stuprum commissum idem comes decollari iussit." Regino, Chronicon, s.a. 883, MGH SS 1: 594]. For more on count Ingelram, see the page of Baldwin I of Flanders.

(2) m. after 916, Cunégonde, widow of Wigeric, living 916, count in Bidgau, maternal granddaughter of Louis II, king of France.
In the life of abbot John of Gorz, Richizo is named as the vitricus (stepfather) of Adalbero I, archbishop of Metz, in a quote attributed to count Boso, in which Boso acknowledges his part in taking revenge against Adalbero's stepfather Richizo ["Ad quem rogo? Num ad regem nescio quem tuum? Num ad ducem tuum illum Gislebertum? quem ego asci servum meum reputo novissimum? Pari modo et de episcopo tuo est Adalberone, quem ipsum utique quantum mihi virtus fuerat iuvare decreveram, qui de vitrico quoque eius Richizone eius causa vindictam sumpsi; sed quia nunc contra me ad Gislebertum defecit, viderit quid ei ex hoc commodi cesserit." (Translation: "Whom do I propose? Surely not your king, whom I do not know? Surely not your duke Giselbert, whom I consider to be the least of my slaves? There is little in any way with your bishop Adalbero, especially him whom I had decided to help so much; to me, that is a virtue. I have even taken revenge in his cause concerning his stepfather Richizo; but because he has now defected to Giselbert against me, he will see that he errs to oblige to this.") Vita Ioh. Gorz., c. 105, 135].


(by first wife)

Otto, d. probably 944 ["Otho dux Lothariensium vita decessit." Flodoard, Annales, s.a. 944, 91; 943 according to Continuator Reginonis, MGH SS 1: 619], (joint) duke of Lorraine, 940-4, lay-abbot of Moyenmoutier, probably also count of Verdun.
The historian Widukind states that Otto (Oddo), son of Richwin (Ricwinus), was put in charge of Lorraine, and that Henry (Heinricus), son of the deceased duke Giselbert (Isilbertus), was handed over to him to be brought up ["Rex autem audita victoria suorummilitum ac morte ducum, gratias egit omnipotenti Deo, cuius saepius auxilium expertus est oportunum; praeficiensque regioni Lothariorum Oddonem, Ricwinis filium, et ut nutriret nepotem suum filium Isilgerhti, optimae spei puerulum, nomine Heinricum, reversus est in Saxoniam." Widukind, ii, 5, MGH SS 3: 445; see also Ekkehardi Chronicon Universale, MGH SS 6: 187; Annalista Saxo, s.a. 942, MGH SS 6: 604]. He is not actually documented as count of Verdun, but since the next documented count of Verdun, a count Raoul in 949, does not appear until after Otto's death, it is likely that Otto succeeded his father in that capacity [For Raoul, see Vanderkindere (1902), 2: 368, n. 2; Parisot (1907-8), 58: 240-2; and the commentary section of Cunégonde's page] See Wichmann 139-143, for more on Otto.

Possible son by Cunégonde (but perhaps a son of Wigeric instead):
There does not seem to be any strong evidence placing Giselbert as a son of either Wigeric or Ricuin, and it remains uncertain which one was his father. See Cunégonde's page

Giselbert, probably count in Ardennes and lay-abbot of Moyenmoutier.

See the Commentary section for additional conjectured children.


Sons of second wife Cunégonde by her first husband Wigeric:
See Cunégonde's page.

Adalbero I, b. say 905×910?, d. 26 April 962, bishop of Metz, 929-962.

Liutgard, living 8 April 960; m. (1) Adalbert; m. (2) Eberhard.

Gozlin, d. 18 October 942, count,, ancestor of the dukes of Lower Lorraine; m. Uda, who was living 18 May 963.

Sons of second wife Cunégonde, probably also sons of Wigeric:
For the following two sons, the evidence tilts strongly in favor of Wigeric being the father, and it seems unlikely that Ricuin was the father. See Cunégonde's page.

Frédéric I, d. 978, duke of Upper Lorraine 959-978, m. 954 (betrothed 951), Beatrix, daughter of Hugues Capet, king of France.

Sigefroid/Siegfried, still living 997, ancestor of the counts of Luxemburg; Lay abbot of Echternach, 949×950-973 (later advocate); advocate of Saint-Maximin, 981; count in Moselgau, 982; m. Hedwig.


Falsely attributed father (did not exist): Ricuin, d. 894, duke of Lorraine.
Depoin would make this Ricuin a duke of Lorraine, succeeding "duke" Meingaud [Depoin (1908-10), 15: 70, 174-6] According to Depoin (citing Calmet 2: preuves, clx), Ricuin supposedly appears with the title of duke in an act of the emperor Arnulf in autumn, 894, known only from a confirmation by emperor Friedrich II ["interventu filli nostri Zuentiboldi et Riccovindi ducis" Depoin (1908), 15: 174]. However, the name itself is an emendation by Depoin, with the charter itself reading Vilcovindus or Vizemundus [ibid., 175; Parisot (1898), 506 ("Vizemund")]. Depoin would place the death of this Ricuin in 894 for the reason that the Ricuin of Verdun in 895 is only called count [Depoin (1908-10), 15: 175-6], and he assume that the "duke" had died in the interval and had been succeeded by his "son". The existence of a Riquinus dux in the Liber Memorialis of Remiremont (see above) was used as evidence for this duke Ricuin, who was assigned this death date, which I have argued above to be that of Ricuin of Verdun. No evidence is offered for the father-son relationship between this supposed earlier Ricuin and the Ricuin who died in 923. In fact, it had already been noted by Parisot that the charter is a fabrication [Parisot (1898), 506-7]. Thus, there is no good reason to believe in the existence of duke Vilcovind/Vizemund, or, as Depoin would rename him, Riccovind/Ricuin

Conjectured brother (unproved, status uncertain): Reginar I, d. 915, ancestor of the counts of Hainaut.
According to Evrard, Clouet conjectured that Ricuin was a brother of count Reginar I [Evrard 154, citing Louis Clouet, Historie de Verdun et du pays vedunois (Verdun, 1867-70), 1: 300, which I have not seen], and Anselme gives a similar statement (see next item). The obvious logic of this conjecture is that it would explain why Ricuin's son Otto became guardian of the young Henri (son of duke Giselbert, son of Reginar), and was joinly duke of Lorraine with his young charge. Direct evidence for such a relationship is lacking. However, as discussed on Cunégonde's page, there is evidence of some kind of connection between her descendants and the family of Giselbert of Lorraine. The status of this conjecture is obviously affected by whether or not Cunégonde was closely related to Reginar.

Falsely attributed father: "Reginar I", count of Hainaut.
Despite appearances, this conjecture does not differ much from the previous one. Anselme would divide the person commonly known as Reginar I into two individuals, Reginar I (through 898) and Reginar II (married Alberada, father of duke Giselbert), increasing the numbers of the other Reginars by one, and making Ricuin the brother of his "Reginar II" [Anselme 2: 770-1].

Conjectured children by first wife (no proof offered, uncertain):
Ingelram (Angilramnus), living 12 February 912, archdeacon of Toul.
NN, mother of Himo, nepos of Ingelram.
Although the reason is not explicitly stated, this conjecture of Depoin is evidently based on the onomastic observation that Ricuin's first wife was a daughter of count Ingelram ["Adeuntes genua Serenitatis nostrae Drogo praesul et Riquinus comes, humiliter precali sunt et cuidam fideli nostro et praefati praesulis archidiacono, nomine Angilramno, ... ut ille et nepos ejus Himo ..." Depoin (1908-10), 15: 176, n. 414, citing Calmet, v. I, Preuves, col. cccxxxiii]. However, since Ingelram was identified as archdeacon of the aforesaid bishop, and Ricuin is also named, it seems like a strange omission that Ingelram was not also called son of the count, if that were indeed the case. Obviously, the case involving the conjectured daughter depends on the correctness (or lack thereof) of Ingelram's supposed relationship.

Falsely attributed sons:
Godefroid, count in Ardennes, ancestor of the dukes of Lower Lorraine.
Frédéric, abbot of Saint-Hubert in Ardennes.
[Anselme 2: 770] Anselme's treatment is characteristic of the careless early treatments of these families. Godefroid is perhaps intended to represent Ricuin's stepson Gozlin (which could be a hypochoristic form of Godefroid), the Godefroid of the next item, or Godefroid of Verdun, or is perhaps a composite of more than one of them, but in any case does not represent a historical son of Ricuin. Frédéric was a patruus of Ricuin's stepson Adalbero, which term cannot be reasonably interpreted to make Frédéric a son of Ricuin.

Falsely attributed son by Cunégonde:
Godefroid, count of Jülich, 945, count palatine.
[See Godefroid's page for details.]

Falsely attributed second wife (supposely instead of Cunégonde):
Amalrade/Amaurée, daughter of Dietrich/Thierry, count of Ringelheim; she supposedly m. (1) Wigeric of Bidgau; (3) Eberhard of Hamaland.
[See Wigeric's page for details]


Anselme = Père Anselme, Histoire généalogique et chronologique de la maison royale de France, 9 vols (Paris, 1726-33).

Barth (1990) = Rüdiger E. Barth, Der Herzog in Lotharingien im 10. Jahrhundert (Sigmaringen, 1990).

Chatelain (1898-1901) = V. Chatelain, "Le Comté de Metz et la vouerie épiscopale du VIIIe au XIIIe siècle", Jahr-Buch der Gesellschaft für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde 10 (1898): 71-119; 14 (1901): 245-311.

Depoin (1908-10) = Joseph Depoin, "Études sur le Luxembourg à l'époque carolingienne. II. Le roman de s. Meingaud", Ons Hemecht 14 (1908): 220-4, 313-318, 377-381, 417-424, 454-461; 15 (1909): 69-76, 110-4, 132-136, 174-8, 219-222, 260-265, 298-306, 321-328, 378-385; 16 (1910): 4-10, 41-6, 84-9, 125-131, 162-8, 202-8, 244-9, 284-295.

Evrard (1981) = Jean-Pol Evrard, "Les comtes de Verdun aux Xe et XIe siècles", Publications de la Section historique de l'Institut Grand-Ducal de Luxembourg 95 (1981): 153-182.

Flodoard, Annales = Ph. Lauer, ed., Les Annales de Flodoard (Paris, 1905).

Lib. Mem. Remiremont = Eduard Hlawitschka, Karl Schmid, & Gerd Tellenbach, eds., Liber Memorialis von Remiremont (MGH Libri Memoriales 1, 1970) [Part 1: text; part 2: photographic copy of original manuscript]

MGH SS = Monumenta Germaniae Historica, Scriptores series.

Nek. S. Vanne = "Das Nekrolog des Klosters S. Vanne", in Bloch (1898-1902), 14: 131-150.

Parisot (1898) = Robert Parisot, Le Royaume de Lorraine sous les Carolingiens (1898, reprinted Geneva, 1975).

Parisot (1907-8) = Robert Parisot, "Les Origines de la Haute-Lorraine et sa première maison ducale (959-1033), Mémoires de la Société d'Archéologie Lorraine et du Musée historique Lorrain 57 (1907): 151-428; 58 (1908): 5-265.

Vanderkindere (1902) = Léon Vanderkindere, La Formation Territoriale des Principautes Belge au Moyen Age (2 vols., 2nd ed., Brussels, 1902, reprinted 1981).

Vita Ioh. Gorz. = Michel Parisse, ed. & trans., La Vie de Jean, abbé de Gorze (Picard, 1999) [Vita Iohannis Gorziensis, Latin with parallel French translation; also edited (Latin only) by Georg Heinrich Pertz, MGH SS 4: 335-377; citations are by chapter number and page in Parisse's edition].

Wampach (1935) = Camillus Wampach, Urkunden- und Quellenbuch zur Geschichte der altluxemburgischen Territorien bis zur burgundischen Zeit, I (Luxemburg, 1935).

Wichmann (1891) = Wichmann, "Adelbero I. Bischof von Metz, 929-962." Jahr-Buch der Gesellschaft für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde 3 (1891): 104-174.


Compiled by Stewart Baldwin

LORRAINE (de ) 1er Simon dit le GROIS - 171 266

Evénement : entre 115 et 1139
sera Duc de LORRAINE
Naissance : vers 1076
Comte d'ALSACE et de METZ
Décès : 13 janvier 1138

Père : LORRAINE (de ) Thierry ( ~ 1050 - 1115 )
Mère : FORMBACH (de ) Hedwige (*) ( ? - ~ 1085 )

Union : LOUVAIN (de ) Adélaïde (Reprendre) ( ~ 1090 - ~ 1158 )
Mariage : 1122

Enfants : LORRAINE (de ) Mathieu ( 1119 - 1176 )
LORRAINE (de ) Berthe ( ~ 1120 - J > 1162 )
LORRAINE (de ) 12 Autres Enfants ( ? - ? )

Note individuelle :
Simon Ier de Lorraine

Un article de Wikipédia, l'encyclopédie libre.

Simon Ier de Lorraine, dit le Grois, né vers 1076, mort le 13 janvier 1138, est duc de Lorraine de 1115 à 1139. Il est le fils du Thierry II, duc de Lorraine, et d'Hedwige de Formbach.

Il succéda à son père en 1115 et accompagna l'empereur Henri V en 1122 à la Diète de Worms, qui mit fin à la Querelle des Investitures.

A l'intérieur du duché, il entra en conflit avec Etienne de Bar, évêque de Metz et Adalbéron, archevêque de Trêves, tous deux alliés du comte de Bar. L'archevêque l'excommunia, mais le pape Innocent II leva l'excommunication. Il était ami de saint Bernard et fonde plusieurs abbayes dont celle de Sturzelbronn en 1135 où il sera inhumé une seconde fois, après l'avoir été à Saint-Dié.

Il épousa Adélaïde († 1158) , fille de Gérard de Supplimbourg, comte de Querfort, sœur de l'empereur Lothaire II, dont il eut :

Mathieu Ier (1119 † 1176), duc de Lorraine
Robert, seigneur de Floranges (près de Thionville)
Agathe, épouse de Renaud III, comte de Bourgogne († 1148)
Hedwige, épouse de Frédéric III, comte de Toul
Bertha, mariée à Herman III († 1160), margrave de Bade

Simon I. Herzog von Lothringen (1115-1139)
Henri Bogdan, La Lorraine des ducs, sept siècles d'histoire, 2005, ISBN 2-262-02113-9.

LORRAINE (de ) Simon
LORRAINE (de ) Thierry
LORRAINE (de ) Gérard
NAMUR (de ) Hedwige
FORMBACH (de ) Hedwige (*)
FORMBACH (de ) Frédéric (*)

LORRAINE (de ) Sophie
- Comtesse de BAR et de MOUSSON

Naissance : vers 1018
Décès : 31 janvier 1093

Père : LORRAINE (de ) Frédéric ( ~ 995 - ~ 1026 )
Mère : SOUABE (de ) Mathilde ( 980 - 1031 )

Union : MOUSSON (de ) Louis ( ~ 1010 - ~ 1073 )
Mariage : 1038

Enfant : MOUSSON (de ) Béatrix ( (e) 1035 - 1092 )

Note individuelle :
Sophie de Bar
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Sophie, née vers 1018, morte le 21 juin 1093, fut une comtesse de Bar et de Mousson.
Elle était fille de Frédéric II, comte de Bar et duc de Haute-Lotharingie et de Mathilde de Souabe.

À la mort de son frère Frédéric III, sa tante Gisèle de Souabe, mariée à l'empereur germanique Conrad II, la recueillit ainsi que sa sœur Béatrice. Sophie hérita des comtés de Bar et de Mousson, tandis que Conrad II donnait la Haute-Lotharingie à un cousin, le duc de Basse-Lotharingie Gothelon Ier.

Elle épousa en 1038 Louis (1019 † 1073), comte de Montbéliard, d'Altkirch et de Ferrette et eut :

Thierry (1045 † 1105), comte de Montbéliard, de Bar et de Mousson.
Louis, cité en 1080
Frédéric († 1092), marquis de Suze
Sophie, mariée à Folmar, comte de Froburg
Béatrice († 1092), mariée à Berthold Ier de Zähringen († 1078), duc de Carinthie
Mathilde, mariée à Hugues de Dagsburg († 1089)

LORRAINE (de ) Sophie
LORRAINE (de ) Frédéric
SOUABE (de ) Mathilde
SOUABE (de ) Hermann
BOURGOGNE (de ) Gerberge

LORRAINE (de ) II Thierry dit le VAILLANT - 342 532

Naissance : vers 1050
Evénement : entre 1070 et 115
sera Duc de LORRAINE
Décès : 1 mai 1115

Père : LORRAINE (de ) Gérard ( ~ 1030 - 1070 )
Mère : NAMUR (de ) Hedwige ( 1000 - ~ 1064 )

Union 1 : FORMBACH (de ) Hedwige (*) ( ? - ~ 1085 )
Mariage : 1079

Enfants : LORRAINE (de ) Simon ( ~ 1076 - 1138 )
LORRAINE (de ) 2 Enfants ( ? - 1144 )

Union 2 : FLANDRE (de ) Gertrude ( (e) 1060 - 1117 )
Mariage : 1095

Enfant : LORRAINE (de ) 5 ou 8 Enfants ( ? - ? )

Note individuelle :
Thierry II de Lorraine

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Thierry II d'Alsace, dit le Vaillant, né entre 1040 et 1050, mort en 1115, fut un duc de Lorraine de 1070 à 1115. Il était fils du Gérard d'Alsace, duc de Lorraine, et d'Hedwige de Namur (voir son ascendance). Il est parfois numéroté Thierry Ier par des historiens du XVIe siècle qui rattachaient les ducs de Lorraine à Charle de Lorraine et ne tenaient pas compte des ducs de la maison d'Ardennes.

A la mort de son père, en 1070, la succession du duché lui fut contesté par Louis, comte de Montbéliard et de Bar, qui avait épousé Sophie de Bar, fille de Frédéric II, un ancien duc de Lorraine. Thierry, pour confirmer ses droits convoqua une assemblée de la noblesse lorraine. Pour gagner l'appui de son frère, il lui donna le comté de Vaudémont. L'assemblée choissit comme duc Thierry et Louis mourut peu après, mais le nouveau comte de Montbéliard Thierry Ier réclama à son tour le duché. L'arbitrage de l'empereur Henri IV confirma à Thierry d'Alsace la possession du duché.

Thierry fut un fidèle des empereurs, participa à plusieurs campagnes contre les Saxons et prit le parti de l'empereur dans le conflit qui l'opposa aux papes Grégoire VII et Urbain II. En 1095, il envisagea de se croiser, y renonça à cause de son état de santé, mais engagea les chevaliers lorrains à y participer. A la fin de son règne, Thierry prit ses distances avec le pouvoir impérial, ne voulant pas intervenir dans le conflit entre Henri IV et son fils le futur empereur Henri V. De même, il ne voullut pas prendre parti dans la lutte entre Henri V et Lothaire de Supplimbourg, un beau-frère de son fils aîné.

Mariages et enfants
Il épousa en premières noces vers 1075 Hedwige († 1085/90), fille de Frédéric, comte de Formbach, et eut :

Simon Ier (1076 † 1138), duc de Lorraine
Gertrude († 1144), mariée à Florent II († 1122), comte de Hollande
Veuf, il se remaria en secondes noces vers 1095 avec Gertrude (1080 † 1117), fille de Robert Ier le Frison, comte de Flandre, et de Gertrude de Saxe, dont il eut :

Thierry (1100 † 1168), seigneur de Bitche, puis comte de Flandre
Henri († 1165), évêque de Toul
Ida, mariée à Sigefroy († 1104), comte de Burghausen
Ermengarde, mariée à Bernard de Brancion
une fille, mariée à Frédéric, comte de Sarrebruck

Dietrich II. Herzog von Lothringen (1070-1115)

LORRAINE (de ) Thierry
LORRAINE (de ) Gérard
BOUZONVILLE (de ) Gérard (*)
NAMUR (de ) Hedwige
NAMUR (de ) Albert (Probléme)
BASSE LORRAINE (de ) Ermentrude

LORRAINE (de ) Walrade (Problème) - 176 108 019
Naissance : vers 836
Décès : après 868

Union : GERMANIE (de ) Lothaire (Problème) ( ~ 835 - 869 )
Mariage :
sa fille Bertha ne semble pas être la fille de l'empereur Lothaire II

Enfant : LORRAINE (de ) Bertha ( 855 - 924 )


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